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- Subject: rec.scouting FAQ #2: Scouting around the World
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- This file contains descriptions on how scouting organizations are
- set up around the world, and other worldwide information of interest.
-
- If you have been in a scouting organization that hasn't been described
- in this FAQ, or if you would like to add something to an existing
- description, please do all of us the favour. Write it up, post it
- on rec.scouting and send a copy to me so that it can be included in
- future issues of this FAQ.
-
- IMPORTANT NOTE: As I'm reaching the size limit for FAQ files, I had
- to edit the largest articles to reduce them to their essential parts.
- I also moved all references to local versions of the Scout Law & Promise
- to a single article at the end of this file.
-
- I saved the full original articles on ftp.ethz.ch in the directory
- rec.scouting/worldwide.
-
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- --------------------------------
- From: macman@bernina.ethz.ch (Danny Schwendener)
- Subject: Scouts worldwide - the figures
- Date: Tue, 12 May 1992 09:58:26 GMT
-
- I just went over the 92 figures of the WOSM, and thought that they
- might be of interest to this group. I think that they will amaze more
- than one here.
-
- Members of scouting organizations, regrouped by regions:
-
- Far East: 7'000'000
- North America: 4'200'000
- Europe: 2'000'000
- Africa: 500'000
- Middle East: 500'000
- South America: 300'000
- Australia/Oceania: 200'000
-
- Note: these figures cover member organizations of the World Organization
- of the Scouting Movement (WOSM) only.
-
-
- --------------------------------
- From: macman@bernina.ethz.ch (Danny Schwendener)
- Subject: Scouts worldwide - the figures
- Date: Tue, 12 May 1992 09:58:26 GMT
-
- See the posting "International Scout Events" which appears on irregular intervals
- on rec.scouting. A copy of the latest version is available via anonymous ftp
- from ftp.ethz.ch. Look for a file named "intl-events.*" (* replaced by release
- version) in the directory "rec.scouting/worldwide".
-
- --------------------------------
- From: chick@hilbert.maths.utas.edu.au
- Subject: Scouting in Australia
- Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1992 05:55:18 GMT
-
- Here in Oz (alias Australia!) our Scouting system works as follows:
-
- _Section_ _Age Range_ _Oz Grade Range (approx.)_
- Joey Scouts 6 - 8 Kindergarten/Preparatory-Grade 2
- Cub Scouts 8 - 11 Grade 2 - Grade 5
- Scouts 10.5 - 15 Grade 5 - Grade 9/10
- Venturer Scouts 14.5 - 18 Grade 9 - Grade 11/12
- Rover Scouts 18 - 26 Adult (University +)
-
- Joey Scouts is new for us - the children don't wear full uniform,
- just the scarf of their local group (all our sections are mixed
- boys/girls now ... if the leaders of the local troop/unit/group
- (Oz name) so decide, although males are still in the majority).
- All the other sections have been around for quite a while, and
- are fully uniformed. Adult leaders may obtain their "Warrant"
- (basic qualification for leadership) after they are 18.
- Most of the local groups will have a Cub Scout and a Scout section
- at the very least (depending on the size of the area), Venturer
- units are the next most likely, followed by Joey mobs (in Australia
- a joey is a baby kangaroo, and the collective noun for kangaroo
- is "mob") and then Rover crews. (This is roughly how it is in
- Tasmania, at any rate.) Some groups are big enough to support
- a couple of Cub packs, but this is about the only area in which
- doubling up occurs. A number of groups make up a district (there
- are 9 or 10 groups in our district), and a district is usually a
- (reasonably) well-defined geographical area. A few districts will
- make up a region, and in little ol' Tassie it takes three regions
- to fill the state.
-
-
- --------------------------------
- From: rickcl@POGO.WV.TEK.com, rcraig@library.carleton.ca
- Subject: Scouting in Canada
- Also-From: Patrick De Gagne, Peter Choi, Bill Hately
- Date: 29 Sep 93 23:55
-
- [a more detailed description of Scouts Canada is available through
- anonymous ftp from ftp.ethz.ch in the directory "rec.scouting/worldwide/" ]
-
- Beavers 4-7
-
- Well, Beavers are the youngest members of Scouting. They're being
- introduced to the movement thru games and fun. Their Moto is "Sharing
- Sharing Sharing". Adult members take care of all the work. Colony
- leaders are responsible for delivering the program including taking the
- youth members on camps. Parents are usually encouraged to participate
- in the program and are required at camp outings.
-
-
- Wolf Cubs 8-11
-
- The Canadian Cub program is similar to Cubbing in the UK.
- (They are not subdivided as in the US. Cubs play games and perform
- activities that involve more instruction than what is offered in the
- Beaver program.
-
- The program, through its motto encourages youth to "do their best" and to
- be responsible for what they do and say. Members of the pack participate
- in choosing program activities through "Sixer Councils". The program is
- on the most part run by the Pack Leaders with some help from the youth.
- Cubs camp more often, in tents during Fall, Spring and Summer, but only in
- cabins during Winter and extreme cold weather at other times of the year.
-
-
- Scouts 11-14
-
- Most of their activities are geared towards badge work, instruction and
- camps. They still play, but not much. Scouts camp quite often and
- almost always in tents or in shelter. As well, the Scouts are
- responsible with the duties of camp. Scouts participate in small group
- activites through which values of team work and the importance of each
- member is taught.
-
-
- Venturers 15-17
-
- Venturers are young men and women who are challenged to democratically
- plan and run their own activities. The group is accountable to an
- Advisor who does just that...he advises. The Company is a group of
- typically 5-10 teens (co-ed), The size varies having an executive
- consisting of (but not all) President, Vice-President, Secretary,
- Treasurer and a Quartermaster.
-
- The Venturers Motto is "Challenge". Meetings vary in the operation from
- "executive meetings" similar to that of a board of directors to "social
- meetings" such as games or activities nights. They do all their planing
- themselves, they plan trips, camps, fund raisers, social events... The
- advisor is there to provide guidance and assistance and to ensure that
- Scouting and legal obligations are met.
-
-
- Rovers 18-26
-
- The oldest youth members of Scouting (not counting leaders of course!).
- Their Moto is "Service". Individually or in small teams, Rovers pursue
- service activities contributing to personal development. Crews are
- provided guidance through an Advisor who assists and ensures that Scouting
- and legal obligations are met. Rovers participate in social camping
- activites called Moots. A moot is a gathering of their peers for camping,
- fun and friendship.
-
-
- In November of 1993, the National Council of Scouts Canada officially
- made Scouts Canada a fully co-ed organization. For years, Venturers and
- Rovers have been Co-ed and for the past three years,(since 1989), the
- other sections have been co-ed on an experimental basis.
-
-
- --------------------------------
- From: rickc@POGO.WV.TEK.com
- Subject: Cub Scouting in Canada
-
-
- This is from "Scouting Try It!" published by Scouts Canada. It talks about
- all their levels of Scouting. I will just type the sections on Beavers and
- Wolf Cubs. The text in brackets are my notes. Their address for more
- information is:
- Scouts Canada
- National Council
- 1345 Baseline Rd
- PO Box 5151, Stn. F
- Ottawa, Ont CANADA
- K2C 3G7
-
- Beavers (5-7 years)
-
- [From Stevie] "In my neighbourhood most activites are for older kids so when
- my best friend Ross told me about Beavers I ran home from school and asked
- Mom to sign me up right away. The first meeting was strange because all the
- other kids had vests and hats with tails on them. Now I don't think it's so
- strange, actualy it's really neat! We do tail slaps, make crafts, go on
- outings and best of all, Ross and I are in the same lodge."
-
- Wolf Cubs (8-10 years)
-
- [From Ryan] "When I was little my Dad would tell me stories about when he was
- young. His favourite story is about the time he went to a Cub camp and the
- Cubs in his six [den] thought they had tricked Akela [Cubmaster] into taking
- them on a late night hike to watch for UFO's. When they got to the lookout
- the other leaders were there with hot chocolate and cookies. All along Akela
- had planned it anyway. So when I went to my first Cub camp I wasn't
- surprised when our Akela woke us up at midnight. But I didn't expect to be
- introduced to the Scouts from our group [One unit from each age is in a
- group. This way the Scouts feed into the next old unit.] who were set up in
- the next valley ready to give us a great campfire and sing song. Cubbing is
- fun, I already have 2 stars."
-
-
- --------------------------------
- From: rusa@diku.dk (Bjarne Steensgaard)
- Subject: Scouting in Denmark
-
- In Denmark we have several Scout associations; the major ones being
- The Danish Guide and Scout Association (Danish: Det Danske
- Spejderkorps = DDS), YMCA Scouts, and YWCA Scouts. Minor
- organizations are The Baptist Scouts of Denmark (Danish: Dansk Baptisk
- Spejderkorps) and The Yellow Scouts (I do not know if these still
- exist!). There is one additional uniformed organization called
- FDF/FPF, but they insist on NOT being scouts (they originate from the
- British Boy's Brigade) even though they have a program that resembles
- the scout programs very much. They do however insist more on
- involving the whole family.
-
- DDS is mixed boys and girls. There used to be two separate
- organizations, but they merged in 1973. The YMCA Scouts is for both
- boys and girls, but I believe there is still a majority of boys. The
- YWCA Scouts is only for girls. FDF/FPF is mixed.
-
- The uniform of DDS Scouts is dark blue. The uniform of YMCA/YWCA
- scouts are dark green. All three organizations supplement the uniform
- with a neckerchief according to the groups choice. The uniform of
- FDF/FPF is light blue without a neckerchief.
-
- I believe that there around 25.000 members of each of the three major
- scouting organizations out of a population of 5.000.000 people in
- Denmark. FDF/FPF have a similar membership figure as far as I recall.
-
- DDS is (I believe) the only Danish scout organization that does not
- require religion to be a part of scouting. The only requirement being
- that the scouts "Find their own faith and respect others'" (part of
- the Scout Law). All the other associations are based on Christianity.
-
- DDS use the following age division guidelines:
- 6-8: Micro Scouts
- 8-10: Mini Scouts
- 10-12: Junior Scouts
- 12-16: Scouts
- 16-23: Senior Scouts
- The age-divisions are only suggestions. Approximately one-fourth of
- the groups does not distinguish between mini and junior scouts and
- have both age groups in the same pack.
-
- The other Scouting organizations have slightly different age divisions
- and generally use more inspiring names. In general the youngest
- scouts are around 6 and the oldest are above 20.
-
- All Scouting organizations in Denmark are based on groups. A group is
- usually a combination of a unit from each of the age groups. It is
- normal to stay in the same group in all of your scouting life.
- Leaders move from group to group, but scouts seldom do.
-
- In DDS, the groups are organized in districts (divisions) that must
- have at least 500 scouts. The districts are combined in areas. I
- cannot remember how many areas there are, but a guess would be between
- 5 and 10.
-
- Leaders are from almost all age groups. It is not unusual that a unit
- have leaders of quite different age. Leaders are both old scouts and
- parents. I believe there is a majority of non-parents. It is not a
- tradition that parents follow their kids through the different age
- groups; instead they tend to stay in the same unit a number of years.
-
- There is no notion of ranks (like Star, Life, Eagle in the BSA) in any
- of the major scouting organizations in Denmark. A few groups
- implement something on their own, but the general emphasis is not on
- advancement. There are merit badges for mini scouts, junior scouts,
- and normal scouts, but in many places these are not very used. In my
- pack, the cub scouts (mini AND junior scouts) rarely have more than 5
- merit badges, of which one is the "knife award" that they have to take
- before they are given a scout name.
-
-
- --------------------------------
- From: snippala@toty.joensuu.fi (Satu Nippala)
- Subject: Scouting in Finland
-
- [Note: This article has been edited, leaving only the essential
- parts. The full article can be retrieved from ftp.ethz.ch
- in the directory rec.scouting/countries -- Danny]
-
- GUIDING AND SCOUTING IN FINLAND
-
- Guiding and Scouting were established simultaneously in Finland
- in 1910. The two separate Unions were merged to form a single
- National Organization in 1972. The assosiation is called The Guides
- and Scouts of Finland (Suomen Partiolaiset - Finlands Scouter ry)
- and consists of 18 Member Districts, one of which is swedish-
- speaking (Finlands Svenska Scouter rf - The Swedish-speaking
- Guides and Scouts in Finland). The organization is affiliated to
- the World Organisation of the Scout Movement (WOSM) as well as to
- the World Assosiation of Girl Guides and Girl Scouts (WAGGGS).
-
- The membership figure including all age-groups is around 80,000.
- The members belong to about 850 local troops of 20 to 300 members,
- which form the Districts (at 10 to 140 troops per district) .
- There are Guides and Scouts from the southernmost tip of the country
- to far beyond the Artic Circle.
-
- GUIDING / SCOUTING PROMOTES :
- *a positive attitude towards religion
- *loyalty to one's country
- *international understanding
- *the ideal of service
- *respect for the convictions of others
- *responsability for one's own life and the environment
- *involvement in social activities
- *a healthy way of life
-
- THE WAYS AND MEANS BY WHICH GUIDING AND SCOUTING WORKS :
- *Ideals and Promise
- *the Patrol System
- *a Program that advances by progressive stages
- *training for Leadership duties at different levels
- *teamwork
- *learning by doing
- *the use of creative imagination
- *games and activating projects
- *outdoor activities
- *activities with international and/or religional emphasis
-
- LEVELS
-
- (7)-10 years : Wolf Cubs ("Sudenpentu")
-
- Wolf cubs meet in packs of 10-20 kids. Some of the packs are mixed,
- the boys and girls sharing all activities at all stages. A Sudenpentu
- Leader is over 16, with a required training and experience background.
- The programme is sub-divided into five progressive stages:
- *Welcome
- *Pikkuhukka (pet name for a wolf cub)
- *Hukka (pet name of folk origin for a wolf)
- *Susi (wolf in finnish)
- *Transition stage
-
- The Finnish Sudenpentu-members participate in traditional Guiding and
- Scouting activities: outings, camps in the summer, crosscountry skiing
- and skating in the winter, games, excursions, day or weekend trips,
- competitions, handicrafts etc. The children also take part in various
- service projects.
-
- 10-14 years : Scouts ("Vartioik{inen")
-
- Translated, Vartioik{inen means "at Patrol age". The Programme for this
- age-group is diversified -- the way it is carried out depends on the
- interests of each patrol.
- Programme and Pins:
- The programme for the Vartioik{inen - level is divided into three
- progressive stages: the Third Class, the Second Class and finally
- the First Class. There is also a number of interest badges.
- The badges are made of metal. The third class badge is the symbol
- of Scout movement, the second one is simply with the text :
- Be Prepared and the First one is the Finnish lion - our states
- symbol on the scoutflower.
- The Patrol leader is called Vartionjohtaja, or VJ for short.
- Their programme is divided into five sectors:
- *Guide and Scout ideology, their ideal of service
- *outdoor and camping skills
- *knowledge of Guiding and Scouting and Society
- *nature and its conservation
- *handicrafts, skills
-
- over 15 years of age : Rangers & Rovers ("Vaeltaja")
-
- Vaeltaja operate in groups of varying sizes. Their leader is often
- of the same age as the eldest members in his or her group. The group
- plans its own programme. All Vaeltaja activities are based on developing
- a positive attitude towards service. Hobbies are also very important. The
- programme is based on six ideals:
- *knowledge of Guiding and Scouting and Society
- *service
- *outdoor activities, physical exercise
- *hobbies
- *nature and its conservation
- *Guide and Scout ideals
- The ideal of service can be realized e.g. by participating in
- voluntary rescue service teams. International activities
- are also an important aspect of Guiding and Scouting, especially at
- this level.
-
-
- SPECIAL SCOUT UNITS include Sea-, Handicap- ("Sisu") and Radio Guiding
- and Scouting units.
-
- SPECIAL PROGRAMMES include the promotion of international understanding
- and the Child and Youth Political Programme ("Nuopo").
-
-
- --------------------------------
- From: kai@dpsg.sub.org (Kai Jendrian)
- Subject: Scouting in Germany - DPSG
- Date: 30 NOv 1993 16:37 +0100
-
- its a little bit difficult to describe Scouting in Germany, as there is
- nothing like *the* Scouting here. In Germany there are about 40 different
- Scout-Organizations. Three of them belong to the WOSM, which are the
- BdP (Bund der Pfadfinderinnen und Pfadfinder), VCP (Verband Christlicher
- Pfadfinder) and DPSG (Deutsche Pfadfinderschaft St. Georg).
- I belong to the DPSG and so I only want to describe the DPSG, as I'm not
- so well informed about scouting in the other organizations.
-
- Please excuse, if you read some German expressions. These are something
- like "german-scouting-specific", so there is no way to translate them
- to english (or too difficult for me :)
-
- *** T H E D P S G ***
- (Deutsche Pfadfinderschaft Sankt Georg)
-
- 1.) History
- The DPSG was founded at 7th Oct. 1929. In 1931 the DPSG had 9.000 members.
- The DPSG worked on the ideals of BP. From 1933 - 1938 the DPSG had to fight
- against opression through the NS-Regime. Some of their members were killed
- in KZ. In 1938 the DPSG was forbidden by the government. But some scouts
- didn't join the HJ (Hitlerjugend) which adaptet the methods and outfit of
- scouting but had absolutely different goals! These scouts worked in the
- underground 'til 1945. In 1950 the WOSM made the RdP (Ring deutscher Pfad-
- finder, which today consists of BdP,VCP,DPSG)a member. Since this time the
- DPSG works active in scouting and now has about (I guess) 80.000 members and
- is the largest german Scouting organization.
-
- 2.) Structure
- Most of the action happens in a Stamm (to be compared to a troop I think).
- Here you see the structure of scouts in Germany:
- Scouts from 8 - 11 years are called the WOELFLINGE.
- Scouts from 11 - 13 years are called the JUNGPFADFINDER.
- Scouts from 13 - 16 years are called the PFADFINDER.
- Scouts from 16 - 21 years are called the ROVER.
- Scouts older then 18 can become LEADERS.
- Normally the groups meet once a week and do some camps in the year.
-
- 3.) Questions
- For official questions please contact:
- DPSG Bundesleitung, Martinstr. 2, 41472 Neuss, Germany
- Phone: +49-2131-46990, FAX: +49-2131-469999
- For questions and corrections concerning this posting pleases contact me by
- electronic mail. This posting doesn't describe everything about the DPSG
- and is only the personal opinion of the writer and not an official description.
- I plan to write a more detailed description, which I'll post to rec.scouting
- and which will be available on ftp.ethz.ch (okay Danny ?).
-
-
- --------------------------------
- From: dtchn@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Dih!-ty / Dicksen Tanzil)
- Subject: Scouting in Indonesia
- Date: 26 Mar 92 15:19:04 GMT
-
- The Scouting Movement of the Republic of Indonesia has a membership
- of about 15 million people (out of a population of 190 million) which
- is PROBABLY the largest in the world. It is open to both sex
- and is organized as follow:
- Siaga (Cub Scout/Brownie) ................ 6-10 yr old
- Penggalang (Boy/Girl Scout)............... 11-15 yr "
- Penegak (Venture Scout) .................. 16-.... (I forgot)
- Pandega (Rover Scout) .................... (Also forgot)
-
- Indonesia Scout groups is also open to all religions and, in fact,
- MAY NOT have any religious affiliation even though when it is
- sponsoured by a church or a mosque.
- My Scout Group is affiliated to a Church but not to Christianity.....
-
-
- --------------------------------
- From: db14@hp825.bih.no (Vegard Engen)
- Subject: Scouting in Norway.
- Date: 26 Mar 92 13:03:44 GMT
-
- [Note: Jan Pharo <jan.pharo@euronetis.no> has posted more information
- on the administrative and organizational parts of NSF. I have stored
- this article on ftp.ethz.ch in the directory rec.scouting/countries.]
-
- In Norway we have several scout-associations, NSF, YMCA and YWCA.
- However, they are cooperating well, I think (At least so in this town,
- Bergen). NSF (Norges SpeiderForbund = Norwegian Scout Association) is
- mixed boys and girls, they were two separate associations, but joined
- their forces in '78. YMCA (KFUM in Norwegian) is only men, as the name
- suggests, however I think they are closely linked with YWCA nowadays,
- and there may be exceptions, such as female scoutmasters. YWCA is the
- female counterpart.
-
- I will after this speak about NSF only, since that's the organisation
- I'm a member of. Most of it will apply for the other assications too,
- though, at least the major parts.
-
- NSF is divided into 4 age-groups:
- 6-7: Bever scouts (this one is fairly new, not so many have them yet).
- 8-10: Cub scouts.
- 11-16: Scouts (I really have no other name for them. :-))
- 16+ : Rovers.
-
- The lower age for a scoutmaster is 17 years, however it is possible
- to become an assistant scoutmaster from the age of 16 years.
- Many scoutmasters are also rovers, and scoutmasters and rovers are
- often two names of the same group of scouts. There IS no official
- higher age for rovers, but the natural limit is somewhere around
- 22-23 years, when one often go away, get married or simply get
- other interests.
-
- In Norway we belive that scouting is outing, and try to do as much
- of our activities as possible in the nature. We have national camps
- every 4th year, and regional camp every 4th year, in such a way
- there will be two years between every major camp. In addition the
- groups have camps of their own, and there is also arranged national
- camps for rovers in particular, since they will often have other
- interests than younger scouts. A typical size for a national camp
- nowadays is 19.000 scouts, and the last regional camp in Bergen
- counted 650 scouts. This was with guests, though, there is always
- guest from other countries at our camps, and even at our last
- regional camp we had 150 foreign guests, some even from so far
- away as Spain.
-
- Last, a little tip for all those who leave their group for studies:
- In Norway we have own scout-groups for students in the larger towns,
- so those who want to continue with scouting when they leave town
- can join those groups. I know they have a lot of fun, and at least
- the one in Trondheim is a large resource when it comes to arranging
- national evenements. However, I guess Bjoern Arne can tell you more
- about that (arneberg@idt.unit.no).
-
-
- --------------------------------
- From: abw@mango.mef.ki.se (Anders Wennerberg)
- Subject: Scouting in Sweden
- Date: 7 Jan 1994 02:13:48 -0600
-
- THE SWEDISH GUIDE AND SCOUT COUNCIL
- (Svenska Scoutr}det - SSR)
- This is a co-operative body for the Swedish Guide and Scout associations.
- Over the years it had developed co-operative bodies for boy- as well as girl
- scouting in Sweden, and after the merge to co-educational associations a joint
- committee was formed in 1968 origin from these two bodies - The Swedish Guide
- and Scout Union, with the working title The Swedish Guide and Scout Council.
- In 1982 the name was changed to be solely The Swedish Guide and Scout Council.
- SSR is a member of WAGGGS and WOSM.
- The Swedish Guide and Scout Council deal with most international matters as
- well as joint questions and projects concerning the five associations (~150000
- members). All five associations have mixed boys and girls and they have
- their own leadership training within their own organisations, through the
- local troop, on a district level, on a regional level and on a national level.
- Trefoil/Gilwell courses are arranged every year. Leaders are from almost all
- age groups. It is usual that a group has leaders of quite different age.
- Leaders are both old scouts and parents. I believe there is a majority of
- non-parents. It is not a tradition that parents follow their kids through the
- different age groups; instead they tend to stay in the same age group a number
- of years. There is no notion of ranks (like Star, Life, Eagle as in the BSA)
- in any of the scouting associations. There are however merit badges. The
- scout uniform differs in the five associations. Usually half uniform is worn
- - shirt and scarf. The Gilwell scarf is the same for the five associations
- and is worn over the collar.
- Amongst other things, in Stockholm, G|teborg (Gothenburg) and Malm| there are
- Reception Teams to receive and help you with contacts into the country.
- Contact The Swedish Guide and Scout Council before you come to Sweden.
- (Some facts of Sweden - almost 9 million people in Sweden, the biggest towns
- are Stockholm - capital of Sweden, G|teborg (Gothenburg) and Malm|, Sweden is
- measuring 1574 km (977 miles) from max. south-north, 499 km (310 miles) max.
- east-west and the total surface area is 449964 km^2 (173731 sq.miles), from
- south to north by road ~2100 km (~1305 miles). Sweden is a country with an
- extensive coastline, a very nice archipelago, woods, countryside, mountains
- and alp scenery.)
- The council also represents Swedish guiding and scouting in the world
- associations and other members countries as well as other organizations,
- authorities and keeping in contact with the public.
-
- Postal address: Visiting address:
- Svenska Scoutr}det Igeldammsgatan 22
- P.O. Box 49005 Stockholm
- S-100 28 Stockholm Telephone: + 46 (0)8 650 35 35
- Sweden Telefax: + 46 (0)8 653 07 43
-
-
- THE SALVATION ARMY GUIDE AND SCOUT ASSOCIATION
- (Fr{lsningsarmens Scoutf|rbund - FA)
- Founded 1916, 3000 members in 55 groups.
- FA Scout is a branch of the local Salvation Army Young People's Corps. The
- program is characterized by traditional scout activities with outdoor life,
- international awareness and community involvement. But the aim also includes
- definite guidance towards making a personal decision to accept the Christian
- faith and life style.
- There are four sections of activities, both boys and girls take part in all
- four. The shirt is medium blue with a red scarf that is worn underneath the
- collar.
- Minior scout (7-9 yrs)
- Junior scout (10-11 yrs)
- Patrol scout (12-14 yrs)
- Senior scout (15-20 yrs)
- Troop leaders must be 18 years of age.
-
-
- THE SWEDISH YWCA-YMCA GUIDE AND SCOUT ASSOCIATION
- (KFUK-KFUMs Scoutf|rbund)
- The YMCA-Scout Association was founded 1911 and the YWCA-Guide Association in
- 1921. In 1960 they merged to form The Swedish YWCA-YMCA Guide And Scout
- Association. 18000 members in 430 groups.
- Some of the scout groups originate from local YWCA-YMCA groups. But many have
- other parents organizations. There are Baptist scouts, Adventist scouts,
- Blue-band scouts, Methodist scouts, Swedish Salvation Army scouts, although
- most groups are independent and not in any way associated with the local YWCA-
- YMCA group or with any church.
- The aim of all activities is to give the members various experiences,
- understanding and knowledge of outdoor life, with consciousness of the
- environment, questions of faith and moral issues, a sense of international
- responsibility and involvement in public affairs.
- There are five sections of scouting, both boys and girls take part in all
- five. The shirt is medium blue with a white (or the group's colour) scarf
- that is worn underneath the collar.
- Beaver scouts (5-7 yrs)
- Minior scouts (8-9 yrs)
- Junior scouts (10-11 yrs)
- Patrol scouts (12-15 yrs)
- Rover scouts (16- yrs)
-
-
- THE TEMPERANCE GUIDE AND SCOUT ASSOCIATION
- (Nykterhetsr|relsens Scoutf|rbund - NSF)
- Scouting began as an activity within the Swedish Temperance Movement in 1927.
- Four decades it was run by two different associations, NTO's Guide and Scout
- Association and IOGT's Guide and Scout Association. In 1970 they were united
- and became NSF. 7000 members in 120 groups.
- A fundamental principle of NSF, along with the Guide/Scout law and promise,
- learning by doing, the patrol system, outdoor life and international, is
- personal temperance. Members over 12 years of age make a temperance pledge.
- This means they do not drink any beverage with more than 2.25 % of alcohol by
- volume.
- There are four sections of scouting, both boys and girls take part in all
- four. The shirt is medium blue with a dark-blue scarf that is worn underneath
- the collar.
- Beaver scouts (7 yrs) as a trial activity
- Minior scouts (8-9 yrs)
- Junior scouts (10-11 yrs)
- Patrol scouts (12-15 yrs)
- Senior scouts (16- yrs)
-
-
- THE GUIDE AND SCOUT ORGANISATION OF THE SWEDISH COVENANT YOUTH
- (Svenska Missionsf|rbundets Ungdom-scout - SMU-scout)
- Founded 1931, 35000 members in 545 groups.
- The Guide and Scout Organisation of The Swedish Covenant Youth is part of the
- activities within youth work of the Swedish Covenant Church.
- The program is characterized by traditional scout activities with outdoor
- life, questions of faith and moral issues, learning by doing, the patrol
- system, international awareness and responsibility, community involvement and
- guidance towards a personal Christian faith and life style.
- There are four sections of scouting, both boys and girls take part in all
- four. The shirt is green with a brick-red scarf that is worn over the collar.
- Nying scout don't wear full uniform, just a yellow scarf.
- Nying scout (7-9 yrs)
- Scout (10-12 yrs)
- Teenage (13-15 yrs)
- Senior scouts (16-18 yrs)
- After 18 years of age you become leader. There is 1 sea scout troop.
-
-
- THE SWEDISH GUIDE AND SCOUT ASSOCIATION
- (Svenska Scoutf|rbundet - SSF)
- Founded 1912, 82000 members in 635 groups.
- The Swedish Guide And Scout Association is a non-political organization, which
- runs scout activities for children, young people and adults, from 7 years of
- age and upwards.
- There are five sections of scouting, both boys and girls take part in all
- five. The shirt is medium blue with a white (or the group's colour) scarf
- that is worn underneath the collar.
- Beaver scouts (7 yrs)
- Minior scouts (8-9 yrs)
- Junior scouts (10-11 yrs)
- Patrol scouts (12-14 yrs)
- Senior scouts (15-18 yrs)
- Members over 18 years old are leaders and can also form a rover scout unit.
- There are about 150 sea scout troops along our coasts.
-
-
- --------------------------------
- From: macman@bernina.ethz.ch (Danny Schwendener)
- Subject: Scouting in Switzerland and Liechtenstein
- Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1992 12:38:55 GMT
-
- _Branch_ _Age Range_ _Uniform_
- Wolves (Cub Scouts) 6 - 12 blue
- Scouts 10 - 18 beige
- Rover/Ranger Scouts 17 - 25+ dark red
- Leaders 18 - 30+ dark green
-
- The reason why the age groups overlap is because we move a kid to the
- next level according to his/her maturity, not his/her age.
-
- Our organization is mixed at all levels. The only thing that still
- reminds of the old separation between girl and boy scouts is that girl
- Rovers are (still) called Rangers.
-
- The young age of our leaders is a tradition. Even members of the
- district or national committees are rarely older than 30. The result:
- more freedom at the unit level, no discrimination, and a very important
- experience in leadership for young people.
-
- Special scout units include Sea Scouts around the major lakes and PTA
- scouts for handicapped kids (PTA means "scouts despite all" in german).
-
- The mandatory parts of our uniform are the shirt, the tie, any kind of
- good hiking boots, a firelighter and a swiss army knife. Optional parts
- are belt, scout jeans, hat, dagger, etc. A kid receives his/her tie and
- vulgo (scout name) from his unit leader in an initiation ceremony.
-
- Troops, patrols and packs meet every saturday afternoon for 3-4 hours.
- We spend 98% of our time outside in the woods or in the field. I get
- inside with my cubs three or four times a year, when the weather is
- clearly unbearable (temperature below -25 Celsius or snowstorm).
- Otherwise, we're outside.
-
- The Swiss Scouting Movement is a member of J+S, a governmental
- institution which promotes sports among youths. Camps for kids in the
- 12-18 age range are subsidized by J+S, and we also receive some basic
- material (tents, denim square units, ropes) from J+S for these
- occasions. J+S is also deeply involved in leader training (because
- unit leaders are basically special youth sport trainers).
-
- A major challenge for the national committees (and every nationwide
- company) is that Switzerland is divided in four language areas. As a
- result, there's not too much documentation available from National.
- There's no national scouting handbook per se. There's a handbook on
- scouting techniques which is edited by our council and has become the
- de facto reference book distributed by National. This book however
- is purely technical and does not handle the human and ethical
- aspects of scouting.
-
- Every 'ordinary' scouting event is embedded into a story over here.
- And the emphasis on story embedding is even higher for cub scouts, the
- idea being for the kids to live an adventure instead of watching them
- on TV. We end up doing the standard scouting activities out in the
- woods, but the reason why we do these activities and the results they
- lead to relate to pure fantasy. So when we mounted a giant eight-side
- "Berliner" tent out of 62 x 62" tent units, it was because we needed a
- flying saucer to escape from the planet Gorgonzola, and when we built
- a hang-bridge over the river, it was the gate between the spacelab and
- the station Mir, with millions of miles of empty space around us.
-
-
- --------------------------------
- From: per@aber.ac.uk (Peter David Roberts)
- Subject: Scouting in the UK
- Date: 3 Apr 92 11:27:34 GMT
-
- Scouting in the UK still follows many of the ideas of the origional
- movement Over the years the age ranges and training awards have
- varied and in the last 18 months the Scout Association has agreed
- that if sections wish to be co-ed they may be. The Girl Guide
- movement is separate and I shall leave someone else to post on
- their format. UK Scouting is divided into 5 sections which I
- consider in turn
-
- Beavers
- age range 6-8
- no specific training program aimed at fun and companionship and
- organised soley by the leaders. Lodge based.
-
- Cub Scouts
- age range 8-10.5
- three stage training program(can't remember full details as it
- changed recently) also a diverse range of proficiency badges.
- Run by the leaders but with inputs from the sixers in a sixers
- council. Six based
-
- Scouts
- age range 10.5 - 15.5
- The main training section with 4 stages of training leading up to the
- Chiefs Scout Award. Again a wide range of proficiency badges available.
- Program is decided by the patrol leaders council and put into practice
- by the PL's with the help and expertise of the leaders. Patrol based
- with emphasis on cooperation.
-
- Venture Scouts
- age range 15.5 - 20
- The final of the training sections only two awards available the
- highest being the training award in scouting the Queens Scout Award.
- Emphasis is on self developement and community help. The unit is run
- by an executive of its members and the main task of the leader is as
- an advisor and keeping everything legal.
-
- Scout Fellowship
- age range 20+
- Section usualy at the district level available to anyone who wishes to
- stay involved in scouting but without taking out a leadership warrent.
- Generaly more social than scouting but offering a very good source of
- experience for scouters in need of specific help.
-
- Link
- age range 20+
- Similar to Scout fellowship only orgainsed by the Guide association
- Link also tend to be more active with social events. Link is an
- international organisation.
-
- SSAGO (Student Scout and Guide organisation)
- Based around Universities and colleges, these cater for Students.
- Programmes are both active and social much like a Venture Scout or
- Ranger Guide unit.
-
- The last three sections take part in major organised scout events
- (Competition hikes etc.)
-
-
- --------------------------------
- From: bcockburn@acorn.co.uk (Bruce Cockburn)
- Subject: Scouting in the UK - F.S.E.
-
- ORG: F.S.E. (Fe`de`ration du Scoutisme Europe`en) of Great Britain.
-
- The F.S.E. is a very small traditional Scout organisation and has
- nothing to do with the mainstream organisation "The Scout
- Association". The F.S.E. of GB is a member of an organisation
- called C.E.S. (Confederation of European Scouts), a pan-european
- organisation which binds traditional Scouting organisations together
- across Europe.
-
- National Commissioner:
- Mr Richard Hyde,
- 68 Glebe Road,
- Deanshanger,
- Milton Keynes,
- England, MK19 6LU
-
- Section: Wolf Cubs
- Wolf Cubs (often shortened to just Cubs, but never referred to
- as Cub Scouts) is for boys and girls between the ages of seven and
- ten and a half years. Cubs are organised into "Sixes", with a Sixer
- and a Second. The Cub syllabus is as follows:
-
- Tenderpad, tests to be passed before Investiture.
- First star, Second star, Proficiency Badges, Wolf Cub Award.
- Leaping Wolf, only Wolf Cub badge to worn on the Scout uniform.
-
- [Wolf Cub Law and Promise: see separate article at the end of this FAQ -- Ed.]
-
- Section: Scouts
- Scouts is for boys and girls between the ages of ten and sixteen years.
- Scouts are organised into Patrols each patrol has a Scout as the Patrol Leader
- and the Assistant Patrol Leader. The Scout syllabus is as follows:
-
- Tenderfoot, tests to be passed before Investiture.
- Second Class, First Class, Proficiency Badges, Explorer Cord.
- Baden-Powell Award, the only Scout Badge worn on the Rover or
- Leader's uniform.
-
- [Scout Law and Promise: see separate article at the end of this FAQ -- Ed.]
-
- Section: Rovers
- Rovers is the section for boys and girls over the age of 16, there
- is no upper age limit. The Rover syllabus is as follows;
-
- Ramblers Badge, Project Badge.
-
- Rovers use and live by the same Law and Promise as the Scout
- section.
-
-
- --------------------------------
- From: oakes@rtsg.mot.com (Ronald Oakes)
- and smh@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (s.m.henning)
- Subject: Scouting in the USA (BSA)
- Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1992 19:28:25 GMT
-
- _Section_ _Age Range_ _U.S. Grades_ _Unit/Program_
- Tiger Cubs (6) 1st Pack/Cub Scout
- Wolf Cubs (7) 2nd Pack/Cub Scout
- Bear Cubs (8) 3rd Pack/Cub Scout
- Webelos (9-10) 4th and 5th Pack/Cub Scout
- Boy Scouts (10.5)-17 6th - (12th) Troop/Boy Scout
- Varsisity 14-17 (9th - 12th) Troop (Team)/Boy Scout
- Venture 14-17 (9th - 12th) Troop/Boy Scout
- Career Awareness
- Exploring (14-16) 9th or 10th Post/Explorer
- Explorers 14-20 (9th - Adult) Post/Explorer
- Sea Explorers 14-20 (9th - Adult) Ship/Explorer
- Air Explorers obsolete
- Adults 18- (Adult) Any (not Scoutmaster
- until 21)
-
- Tiger Cubs are eqivlent to the Australian Joey's. They are a highly
- parent/son orinteated activity. The Tiger's do meet with the cub pack.
- Wolf and Bear dens make up the "traditional" cub scout program.
- Webelos are a transition from Cubs to Scouts (Webelos means "We'll
- Be Loyal Scouts).
-
- About 3 years ago the Boy Scout (10.5-18) program was rearranged to
- incude Varsitity teams and Venture crews within the troop for the
- older boys. The varisty program emphisizies sports, the Venture
- emphisizes High Adventure. Both of these programs are supposed to
- be more Boy run than even the normal troop. Varsity Teams may also
- be indepentant (I think).
-
- Explorers is normally emphasized towards carreers. However, a number
- of "High Adventure," and hoby posts exists. The Sea Explorers has
- seperate positions and awards and uses sailing. Air Explorers appears
- to be the flying equivlent to Sea Explorers (I only know they exist
- from looking through my Insigana Guide the other day).
-
- At this time Girls may only join Explorer type units. However,
- unregistered girls may participate in Venture and Varsity activities.
- Also, no adult position is restricted by Sex. Personally, I suspect
- that girls will be allowed in all levels of scouting sometime in the
- next 10 years.
-
- In addition to the normal program, scouts may be elected to become
- a member of the Order of the Arrow, an honor camping orginazation.
- These activities should be in addition to normal troop, team or post
- activities. The Order of Arrow is primarily a service organization.
- Unfortunately many boys and adults join for the honor and forget the
- obligation to service.
-
- Alpha Phi Omega is an service fraternity orginazation that is closely
- associated with scouting. See the separate message for more information.
-
- Any boy with special needs can be placed in any program at any age and
- stay in that program as long as it is appropriate to his ability.
-
- We also have a new program called Learning For Life which is fully coed
- and is designed to be used in schools. It primarily uses lesson plans
- the are related closely to life skills for disadvantaged students.
- It does not use rank, uniform or anyting labeled scouting.
-
- Traditional scout programs can also be used in schools during class
- room time, but they only register the boys unless the students are
- over 14. Career Awareness Exploring is an in school program which
- brings speakers into the school to describe various career choices.
- It is supplemented with traditional explorer posts that concentrate
- in more detail on careers.
-
- Address for further information:
-
- Boy Scouts of America
- National Office
- Irving, Texas 75015-2079
-
- Check your phone book for the local Council Office
-
-
- --------------------------------
- From: millard@acsu.buffalo.edu
- Also-From: dmahoney@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
- Also-From: oconnell@rye.cs.unm.edu
- Subject: Scouting in the USA (BSA) - General Organizational & ethical Info
-
- Scouting began as a world-wide movement that was established in all parts of
- the world, and attempts to further the education, moral standards, and ethics
- of young people around the globe. The scouting movement does much, much more
- than educate boys about the outdoors and camping. It provides a learning
- institution in which a young man can acquire such things as leadership skills,
- public speaking abilities, and the techniques needed to run a large scale
- organization in cooperation with several other people.
-
- Boy Scouts of America is primarily involved in character-building and
- values-training. So, unfortunately, this often can limit the extent of
- their focus on backcountry activities or environmental information.
- Different troops are different. Find the best ones.
-
- A large part of scouting has emphasis on the outdoors. Many of our themes,
- and the skills that we teach are centered on the theme of camping, and the
- respect for mother nature. We educate these boys about such things as knots,
- cooking, and firebuilding, and we also instruct them on ideals such as low
- impact camping (which is being practiced more and more) basic backpacking,
- and canoeing to name a few.
-
- In order to let many troops experience the outdoors, there are
- thousands of camps located through-out the country. The majority of these
- are run by local councils (many troops in one area constitute a council, and
- there are many councils in a state); however, there are a few larger camps
- which are run by the national office. One of the most popular of these
- is Philmont Scout Ranch located in Cimarron, New Mexico. This is an area of
- land that has hundreds of miles of backpacking trails which runs semi-guided
- trips for troops all over the nation and world. This is typically a
- wonderful experience since it promotes low impact backpacking. The scouts
- are taught about the proper equipment to use such as boots,stoves,packs,etc.
- There are several other National High Adventure Bases located around the
- country, such as the Florida Sea Base, the Robert Service Canoe Base, located
- near the Minnesota boundary waters.
-
- Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts are unfortunately and strangely distant from each
- other. Only Scouts and Explorers can attend the "High Adventure" bases.
- Eventually, the increasing number of women Scoutmasters (they do exist)
- will ask why they, their son and husband can receive what their daughter can't.
- Some quasi-merger or cooperation agreement is likely in the future.
-
- Quite recently, scouting as a national organization has come into the
- media concerning several court cases involving moral, as opposed to
- environmental issues. Specifically the evidence about discrimination in
- various circumstances have come into question. There are cases pending
- in court about the dismissal of a gay scoutmaster, the refusal of the
- regional headquarters to admit a young girl into cub scouts, and the issue
- of religious influence on scouting.
-
-
- --------------------------------
- From: naraht@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (Randy Finder)
- Subject: Alpha Phi Omega (USA)
- Date: Fri Jan 22 1993 19:02:22 GMT
-
- Alpha Phi Omega is a National Service Fraternity whose cardinal
- principles are Leadership, Friendship and Service. Out program of service
- is directed to four areas: Campus, Community, Nation, and Fraternity.
- We were founded by former Boy Scouts who wanted to contine Scouting ideals
- in the college setting.
-
- We have about 350 active chapters in the United States and more than 225,000
- students have chosen Alpha Phi Omega. There are about 150 chapters of Alpha
- Phi Omega, Phillipines and we are interested in extending to other countries.
-
- We were founded in 1929, until 1967 membership was only former Boy Scouts,
- however today membership is now open to any college student, male or female.
- We are not a social fraternity. We have no selective or exclusive membership
- requirements and there is absolutely no hazing.
-
- We maintain strong ties to its scouting roots. HOWEVER, the BSA does not
- finance or govern the fraternity in any way. Examples of Service to Scouting
- include sponsoring Scout troops, staffing camporees and other functions,
- cleaning up Scout camps and assisting in fundraising.
-
- Address for further information:
-
- Alpha Phi Omega National Office
- 14901 E. 42nd St.
- Independence, MO 64055-9932
-
-
- --------------------------------
- From: szafrans@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (Pam Furlong Backstrom)
- Subject: Scouting in the USA (GSUSA)
- Date: 2-APR-1992
-
- ORG: The Girl Scouts of the United States of America (GSUSA)
- 830 Third Avenue
- New York, NY 10022
-
- Break down of Program Age Levels (Girl Scouting is for Girls only)
-
- Daisy Girl Scout 5-6 yo K
- Brownie Girl Scout 6-8 yo 1-3 grade
- Junior Girl Scout 8-11 yo 3-6 grade
- Cadette Girl Scout 11-14 yo 6-9 grade
- Senior Girl Scout 14-17 yo 9-12 grade
-
- Girl Scout Motto: Be Prepared
- Girl Scout slogan: Do a Good Turn Daily
-
- [Girl Scout Promise & Law: see separate article at the end of this FAQ -- Ed.]
-
-
- --------------------------------
- From: hung@octel.com (Hung Le)
- Subject: Scouting experiences in Vietnam
- Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1992 14:52:09 GMT
-
- My name is Hung Le, and I'm a former cub scout, boy scout,
- venturer, rover scout and scouter of BSVN (Boy Scout of Vietnam).
- Currently, I'm with the Santa Clara County Council, BSA
- as a unit commissioner.
-
- I would like share with all fellow scouts out there on the Net-
- work some personal experiences that I have had with the scout or-
- ganizations, especially with the BSVN. These experiences are so
- valuable to my life and my children as well... When I joined the
- Boy Scouts of Vietnam, my country was torn apart by the war.
- Everywhere I went, there were always fighting leftovers. It was
- dangerous to travel, abeit going camping, but even so, we managed
- to have wonderful times, troop leaders were very creative in
- finding places for kids to camp, to have a meeting location.
- Scout meeting was always outdoors, in the open air. A lot of
- times we went camping without a scoutmaster because of the mili-
- tary draft. During my 6 years as a boy scout, I had three scout-
- masters and their average age was about 19 years old.
-
- I remember taking my Panther patrol (yes, a Blank Panther), on a
- trek to a remote waterfall. Each member had to be separated by a
- distant of 10 meters, so that a bobby trap grenade would not de-
- cimate the whole patrol. I learned valuable survival skills from
- the boy scouts, during the war, not only to help myself, but help
- to my family and other beings as well. Beside learning knots and
- semaphores, we also learned camouflaging, how to recognize booby
- traps, different type of ordnance (by default), and servicing re-
- fugee camps. Servicing refugee camps was a constant activity for
- the troops and the posts. Sometimes the pack would chip in their
- help in making greeting lines for some big shots who come and
- visited refugee camps. During the Tet offensive of 1968, my ex-
- plorer post managed a makeshift refugee camp in Dalat province
- for more than 3 months. This included security for people in the
- camp (A lot of problems came from rowdy bands of government sol-
- diers trying to intimidate the female refugees, but when they saw
- the scouts, they thought another military unit was handling the
- refugee camp). This also included searching for food (mostly, by
- contacting GI units and the government in the area) for refugees.
- Sanitation was always the biggest task of the day: Talk about
- cleaning the out-houses for refugees!!! At times we organized
- 'dare-devil' teams to go into battle areas to retrieve civilian
- and, sometimes, military bodies to bury or to take back to the
- city morgue. The morgue was always full during those days. In the
- city, there was another youth group organized by the Red Cross,
- and we competed with them in collecting the wounded and the dead,
- along with other war trophies. One time we collected a "broken"
- bomb and decorated it as a gate for our refugee camp. It was
- quite a deterrent for those who passed through that gate.
-
- The war also took a personal toll in my life. My very first cub-
- master was blown up in his Jeep from an ambush. I went to his
- funeral without seeing his face since there were nothing left to
- see. The second cubmaster was killed and left behind his pregnant
- wife and two small girls. The third cubmaster spent almost ten
- year in the re-education camps. My first patrol leader volun-
- teered for Airborne division at the age of 17, and came back in a
- light casket. His mother told me that after he was killed in the
- DMZ area, he had to wait for a few months for transport of his
- body back home... There were so many Vietnamese scouts in my
- area that I know never made it to 18th year birthday. Frankly,
- without scouting, it would be very hard for me to find solace for
- those senseless killings. Looking back, I admired all of my scout
- leaders. They were true men (unfortunately, I never had any fe-
- male leaders, even at cub age) of their word, who lived up to
- scout promises and scout laws. At times, they weighed their
- lives light as a feather, but sometimes, as heavy as the biggest
- mountain in the north. At that time, deserting from the Army was
- rampant, but I rarely saw or heard of scouts were deserters.
-
- Even in that bloody environment, I had a blast when I was in
- scouting. I had so much opportunities to learn about myself and
- about other people. Nowhere else in life have I found such deep
- and emotional relationships. It was not unusual that my whole pa-
- trol attended Christmas mass with one Catholic member, although 6
- out 7 members were Buddists. My favorite patrol member was a
- Chinese who came to the scout meeting with Chinese goodies from
- his father. Many times my patrol went camping near the National
- Military Academy so that at night times, we could look at the
- sky, watching the yellow flares in searching for communist in-
- truders. During teen age, I traveled up and down the coast of
- Vietnam, hitch hiking with two other scouts to the Delta areas.
- We spent two days in a notorious, scary Cambodia village near the
- border with Vietnam, and had a chance to observe how people were
- trafficking at the border. A few times, my troop went camping out
- of town by trekking to the military airstrip. We got in there be-
- cause we knew well the soldiers at the entry post. Besides I
- heard that the American Senior Military Advisor there was also a
- former eagle scout. We waited for the next empty cargo plane,
- asked the pilot where is his next stop, then asked for a ride.
- Many times we had to camp at the dirt spot nearby. It was adven-
- turous and a lot of fun, and a lot of disapointment too.
-
- During the Spring offensive of 1972, I went to the national jam-
- boree with more than 10,000 scouts camping in one of the very hot
- spots near Saigon. The GI Star and Stripes newspaper called it
- the "Warboree". Every night, there were skirmishes between two
- ranger batailons and the local communists from the neighborhood
- village.(It was possible that some of the local boys also parti-
- cipated in the Jamboree). The opening night was festooned with
- "Fire Dragons" tracers, shot from C-47 aircraft circulating
- ahead. Laying their backs on a green grass field, the scouts
- tried to decifer beautiful colors from different flares, or
- 'pfuff pfuff' noise from different types of gunship helicopters.
- Unforgettable experiences!!
-
- The Boy Scouts of Vietnam Association, ceased officially to exist
- as a member of the World Scout Bureau when the communists took
- over the South in 1975, but thousands of Vietnamese still join
- scout organizations in the country they resided in. Many scout
- units were formed in the refugee camp in Philippine, Malaysia,
- Singapore, Thailand and Hong Kong. I believe in France, there is
- an official Vietnamese Scout Association operating under the
- Scout Federation of France. It is estimated that there are more
- than 3000 Vietnamese scouts in Vietnamese scout units world-wide.
-
- In 1990, we had the Third International Vietnamese Jamboree in
- Cutter Camp, Boulder Creek, California, with more than 700 Viet-
- namese scouts from 6 countries. The event was also to commemorate
- the 60th anniversary of the Boy Scout of Vietnam.
-
-
- --------------------------------
- From: chris@scout.demon.co.uk (Christopher T Wilkinson)
- Subject: Network Russia
-
- After the downfall of the USSR, scout units are emerging again in all
- the former Soviet republics. Scout UK has launched several programs to
- help the development of scouting in Russia. One of the visible products of
- this project is a publication called Network Russia.
-
- Network Russia's goal is to encourage assistance to Russian Scouting
- and to ease relations and exchanges. You can get at least 3 copies of the
- printed edition each year by sending 2-50 to Network Russia, Oxfordshire
- County Scout Association, 22nd Oxford Scout HQ, Meadow Lane, Donnington,
- Oxford OX4 4BJ. To get a copy of the premium issue, ftp to ftp.ethz.ch and
- look in the directory /rec.scouting/misc/ for the file "network-russia-9306".
-
-
- --------------------------------
- From: michell@canada.hp.com
- Subject: Scouting on the Air: Radio Amateur Scout Technical Info
- Date: 15 Feb 93 16:05:59 PST
-
- The information I have is that there are two International Scout Nets
- operating regularly - the European one on 14.290khz on Saturdays at
- 0930 GMT and the World net on Saturdays on 21.360khz at 1800 GMT. I
- received this via JOTA in 1988 (I have been organizing a JOTA station
- for the District for the last 8 years and have been an Amateur Radio
- for the last year). I have tried listning in to the World net a few
- times with no luck, I would like to know if it is still on.
-
- --------------------------------
- From: macman@bernina.ethz.ch (Danny Schwendener)
- Subject: Scouting on the Air: JOTA (World Jamboree On The Air)
- Also-From: David Miller, Peter Swynford
- Date: 3 Mar 93 10:23:38
-
-
- JOTA is a yearly worldwide scout jamboree (meeting) on radio-amateur
- frequencies. The event takes place on the third weekend of October.
- In 1993, it is scheduled on October 16-17.
-
- As a first for 1993, a JOTI (Jamboree On The Internet) will be held
- as off-stage event during the JOTA. To participate, connect to the
- Internet Relay Chatter (IRC) by using the irc client on your local
- host or by telnetting to <host name to be supplied>. There will be
- a channel named "Scouting" (I think) where JOTers will meet
- during that time.
-
- JOTA is a worldwide event. Units may operate for 48 hours, from
- Saturday 00.00 h until Sunday 24.00 h local time. Due to the world's
- time differences, this period is not the same for everyone. To
- determine the times at which you can most likely contact a certain part
- of the world, calculate a time difference and ask your amateur radio
- operator about the radio propagation prediction (a sort of weather
- forecast for radio waves).
-
- Any authorized frequency may be used to establish a contact.
- Just call "CQ JAMBOREE", or answer Scout stations who are calling
- to establish a contact. National radio regulations must be strictly
- observed (in most countries, a licensed amateur radio operator must
- be present and a logbook must be held). To find each other easily,
- listen on the agreed World Scout Frequencies listed below.
-
- Another hint to inprove your success rate: in the weeks preceding
- the event, keep an eye on rec.scouting for other stations and arrange
- meeting times and frequencies with them in advance.
-
-
- World Scout Frequencies
- Band SSB (phone) CW (morse)
- 80m 3.740 & 3.940 MHz 3.590 MHz
- 40m 7.090 MHz 7.030 MHz
- 20m 14.290 MHz 14.070 MHz
- 17m 18.140 MHz 18.080 MHz
- 15m 21.360 MHz 21.140 MHz
- 12m 24.960 MHz 24.910 MHz
- 10m 28.990 MHz 28.190 MHz
-
- Also worth listening to in the UK
- 2m 144.325 MHz SSB
- 2m 145.325 MHz FM
-
- World Federation of Great Towers
- ================================
- The World Federation of Great Towers (WFGT) is an organization in which
- large towers all over the world co-operate for special activities. It
- was founded in 1989 with the aim to stimulate communication and
- exchanges of all sort between the people of the world.
-
- The WFGT invites Scouts to take part in the JOTA from the top of their
- Towers. Amateur radio stations will be installed on the towers and
- professional communication facilities to contact the other towers will
- be made available also.
-
- The following towers are expected to take part: Centrepoint Tower in Sydney
- (Australia), Donauturm in Vienna (Austria), CN Tower in Toronto
- (Canada), Empire State Building in New York (USA), Tour Eiffel in Paris
- (France), Euromast in Rotterdam (Netherlands), Ostankino Tower in Moscow
- (Russia), Blackpool Tower in Blackpool (United Kingdom) and British
- Telecom Tower in London (United Kingdom).
-
- Some of these stations may use special call signs as well. It is
- usually planned to establish a television link between New York, Paris and
- Moscow at some time during the weekend. This will make it possible for
- the scouts at those towers to have a forum discussion. Further details
- are not yet known, but can be obtained from the World Bureau's radio
- station HB9S during the JOTA.
-
-
- --------------------------------
- From: johnw@psychnet.psychol.utas.edu.au (John Wanless)
- Also-From: Bob Kenyon, Jan Pharo, Pam Backstrom, Bruce Cockburn, Dr J R Stockton et al.
- Subject: Re: Laws and Promises around the world
- Date: 12 Nov 1993 (update)
-
- Fellow Scouters,
-
- These are a listing of the Promise and Laws that have been posted to
- me and Rec.Scouting with corrections as at 1/11/93 [Plus additions
- as of 93/11/12 -- Ed.]
-
- Again I apologise in advance for any further mistakes and ask for
- copies of any variations that you can send me which I will post up in
- addition to these given. You can email me direct direct or post to
- Rec.Scouting.
-
- I am also missing the following, can anyone email these to me please,
- Australian Browie & Guide Laws & or promises
- Canadian Scout Laws
- Czech Scout Laws
- Finland Scout Laws
- Greek Scout Laws
-
- *** Australian Cub Promise (8-10 yrs)
- On my honour,
- I promise that I will do my best
- to do my duty to my God, and
- to the Queen of Australia
- to help other people, and
- to live by the Cub Scout Law
-
- *** Australian Scout Promise (10-14 yrs)
- (as from September 1st 1989)
- On my honour,
- I promise that I will do my best,
- to do my duty to my God, and
- to the Queen of Australia
- to help other people, and
- to live by the Scout Law
-
- *** Canadian Beaver Promise (5-7 yrs)
- I promise to love God
- and to help take care of the world
-
- *** Canadian Cub Promise (8-10 yrs)
- I promise to do my best
- to love and serve God
- to do my duty and to the Queen
- to keep the the law of the Wolf Cub pack
- and to do a good turn for someone every day
-
- *** Canadian Scout Promise (11-13 yrs)
- On my honour,
- I promise to do my best
- to love and serve God,
- my Queen, my country, and my fellow man,
- and to live by the Scout Law.
-
- *** Canadian Venturer Promise (14-17 yrs)
- On my honour
- I promise to develop myself so that I may better
- * love and serve God,
- * respect and help my fellowman,
- * honour and render service to my country.
-
- *** Canadian Rover/Scouter Promise
- On my honour,
- I promise to do my best
- To do my Duty to God and the Queen,
- To help other people at all times,
- And to carry out the spirit of the Scout Law.
-
- *** Chile Scout Promise
- I promise on my honor
- to do all that I can
- to do my duty to God and my Country,
- to help others at all times,
- and to obey the Scout Law.
-
- *** Czech Promise
- On my honour, I promise that I will do my best,
- to love my country, Republic of Czechoslovakia,
- and serve it faithfully in all times,
- to fulfil all my duties and keep the Scout Law,
- day & night to be ready to help my fellow men
- (God might help me to do so)
-
- *** Finland Promise
- I will love,
- my God and my fellowmen,
- my country and mankind,
- in my life I will carry out Scout ideals.
-
- *** Greek Promise
- On my honour I promise,
- to do my duty to God and the country,
- to help every person at all times,
- and to obey the Scout Law. .
-
- *** Norwegian Scout Promise
- I promise to do my best to serve God,
- help others and live according to the Scout Law.
-
- *** South African Promise
- On my honour, I promise that I will do my best,
- to do my duty to God and my country,
- to help other people at all times,
- and to obey the Scout Law.
-
- *** Swedish Scout Promise
- we have a scout promise that says (in english transation)
- I promise to do my best to follow the scout law.
-
- *** Swiss Scout Promise:
- I promise that I will do my best to live by the Scout Law.
-
- (optional addendum for religious scouts:
- I ask god and my friends to help me reach this goal).
- Important note: None of the two texts play an important role in
- the life of a swiss scout. A scout promise is considered as something
- very special. It is only meaningful if you really, really, really
- plan to keep that promise.
- It's a good guideline for the scout leader, though.
- In day-to-day life, a swiss scout learns to live by the law in a
- very natural way, by following the example of his/her leader and
- his/her companions.
-
- *** UK Scout Promise (B-P's original)
- On my honour I promise that I will do my best,
- to do my duty to God and the King,
- to help other people all the time,
- to obey the Scout Law.
-
- *** UK Scout Promise (current)
- On my honour,
- I promise that I will do my best
- to do my duty to God
- and to the Queen,
- to help other people
- and to keep the Scout Law.
-
- *** UK (?) Scout Promise (F.S.E.)
- (a European scouting body in Great Britain)
- On my honour I promise that I will do my best,
- to do my duty to God, the Queen,
- my country and Europe,
- to help other people at all times,
- and to obey the Scout Law.
-
- *** UK (?) Wolf Cub Promise (F.S.E.)
- I promise to do my best, To do my duty to God, the Queen,
- my Country and Europe, To keep the law of the Wolf Cub
- Pack, And be helpful each and every day.
-
- *** USA Promise (Boy Scouts of America)
- On my honor, I will do my best, to do my duty,
- to God and my country, and to obey the Scout Law,
- to help other people at all times,
- to keep myself physically strong ,
- mentally awake, and morally straight.
-
- *** USA Promise (Girl Scouts of the USA)
- On my Honor, I will try to serve God and my country
- to help people at all times and to live by the Girl Scout Law
-
- *** Australian Cub Scout Laws
- Cub Scouts are loyal and obedient
- Cub Scouts do not give in to themselves
-
- *** Australian Scout Laws
- A Scout is trustworthy
- A Scout is loyal
- A Scout is helpful
- A Scout is friendly
- A Scout is cheerful
- A Scout is considerate
- A Scout is thrifty
- A Scout is courageous
- A Scout is respectful
- A Scout cares for the environment
-
- *** Chile Scout Law
- The Scout places his honor in being worthy of trust.
- The Scout is loyal.
- The Scout is useful and helps others, without thinking of compensation.
- The Scout is a friend to all and a brother to any Scout.
- The Scout is courteous and gentlemanly.
- The Scout loves Nature and protects animals and plants.
- The Scout smiles and sings in difficult times.
- The Scout is obedient.
- The Scout is thrifty.
- The Scout is clean and pure in thought, word and deed.
-
- *** Norwegian Scout Law
- A Scout is open to God and His word;
- A Scout accepts responsibility for himself and others;
- A Scout is helpful and conciderate;
- A Scout is a good friend;
- A Scout is honest and thrustworthy;
- A Scout knows and protects the Nature;
- A Scout thinks and acts independently, and tries to understand other people;
- A Scout does his best in difficulties and troubles;
- A Scout is thrifty;
- A Scout works for peace and understanding between people.
- ('himself' also means 'herself')
-
- *** South African Scout Law
- Our actual laws are based on an abbreviated version of the British laws:
- 1. A Scout's Honour is to be trusted
- 2. A Scout is loyal.
- 3. A Scout's duty is to be useful and to help others
- 4. A Scout is a friend to all and a brother to every other Scout
- 5. A Scout is courteous
- 6. A Scout is a friend to animals
- 7. A Scout obeys orders
- 8. A Scout smiles and whistles under all difficulties
- 9. A Scout is thrifty
- 10. A Scout is clean in thought, word and deed.
-
- We use a rhyme to remember the laws:
- "Trusty, loyal, helpful,
- Brotherly, courteous, kind,
- Obedient, Smiling, Thrifty,
- Clean in body and mind"
-
- *** Swedish Scout Law (english translation, with no warranties)
- 1. A Scout is reverent to God and His word.
- 2. A Scout is honest and trustworthy.
- 3. A Scout is friendly and helpful.
- 4. A scout is considerate and a good companion.
- 5. A scout overcomes difficulties with humour.
- 6. A Scout learns to know and protects the Nature.
- 7. A Scout accepts responsibility for herself/himself and others.
-
- *** Swiss Scout Law (english translation, with no warranties)
- A scout is honest towards him-/herself and the others
- A scout stands to his/her belief [whichever it is]
- and respects the belief of others.
- A scout takes care of the nature and all living beings
- A scout helps wherever he/she can
- A scout is a good companion
- A scout keeps his/her self-control
- A scout can integrate him-/herself in the community
- A scout overcomes difficulties with humor
- A scout can renounce
- A scout is ready [willing] to take responsibility.
-
- *** UK Scout Law
- 1. A Scout is to be trusted.
- 2. A Scout is loyal.
- 3. A Scout is friendly and considerate.
- 4. A Scout belongs to the world-wide family of Scouts.
- 5. A Scout has courage in all difficulties.
- 6. A Scout makes good use of time and is careful of
- possessions and property.
- 7. A Scout has self-respect and respect for others.
-
- *** UK Cub Law
- Cub Scouts always do their best, think of others
- before themselves and do a good turn every day.
-
- *** UK (& other?) Cub Law (F.S.E.)
- The Cub honours his parents and obeys his leaders,
- Always does his best and is a friend to all.
-
- *** UK (& other?) Scout Law (F.S.E.)
- 1. A Scout's honour is to be trusted.
- 2. A Scout is loyal to his Queen, his Country, his
- Scouters, his Parents, his Employers, and those under him
- 3. A Scout's duty is to be useful and to help others.
- 4. A Scout is a friend to all, and a brother to every other
- Scout, no matter to what country, class or creed the other belongs.
- 5. A Scout is courteous.
- 6. A Scout is a friend to animals and to all other created things.
- 7. A Scout obeys the orders of his parents, Patrol Leader,
- or Scout Master without question.
- 8. A Scout smiles and whistles under all difficulties.
- 9. A Scout is thrifty.
- 10. A Scout is clean in thought, word and deed.
-
- *** USA Scout Law (Boy Scouts of America)
- A Scout is...
- Trustworthy,
- Loyal,
- Helpful,
- Friendly,
- Courteous,
- Kind,
- Obedient,
- Cheerful,
- Thrifty,
- Brave,
- Clean, and
- Reverent.
-
- *** USA Scout Law (Girl Scouts of the USA)
- I will do my best:
- to be honest
- to be fair
- to help where I am needed
- to be cheerful
- to be friendly and considerate
- to be a sister to every Girl Scout
- to respect authority
- to use resources wisely
- to protect and improve the world around me
- to show respect for myself and other through
- my words and actions
-
- *** Rover Prayer
- By the spirits of the just,
- Made perfect in their suffering,
- Teach us in our turn Oh Lord,
- To serve thee as we aught,
- To give and not to count the cost,
- To fight and not to heed the wounds,
- To toil and not to seek for rest,
- To labour and not to seek for any reward,
- Save that of knowing that we do thy will.
-
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